This week, we’re talking about Gaza—not just what’s happening on the ground, but how we know what’s happening. With international access restricted and communications often blacked out, its mostly Palestinian journalists risking their lives to document the war. But what happens when the people telling the story become the story themselves?

We speak to Helene Lam Trong, director of the upcoming documentary film “Between the Lines – Inside Gaza” that follows the lives of Palestinian reporters in Gaza working for Agence France-Presse, and Yann Olivier, the film’s producer. They take us inside the making of a project that centers on the voices of local journalists, showing how they navigate grief, loss, and danger to keep the world informed. Here’s a teaser.

Helene and Yann share what it’s like to collaborate from afar and the technologies involved in being able to capture such catastrophic moments, the ethical questions that shaped the project, and the emotional impact of building relationships with their subjects—many of whom have lost colleagues, homes, and family members in the war.

In April of this year the Committee to Protect Journalists declared this the deadliest period for journalists since they started keeping track in 1992. You can find some more information on this here and here. With this in mind, this episode is a tribute to the courage and resilience of Gaza’s reporters, and a reflection on why bearing witness still matters.

We also mention another documentary shown at the International Journalism Festival, you can find that here. And our podcast with Almudena Bernabeu, prosecutor of the People’s Tribunal on the Murder of Journalists is here.