There were some pretty intense weeks at the end of June with Israel attacking Iran’s nuclear sites and the United States joining in. Suddenly – as happens regularly, we find – everyone, including NATO’s leaders, became experts in international law. So….we talked to an expert who thinks states – especially his own, the United States – have been bending and interpreting ‘the law’ for a long time already.
Samuel Moyn is the Kent Professor of Law and History at Yale University. He’s written a tonne of books including Humane: How the United States Abandoned Peace and Reinvented War. He’s the kind of professor who uses jus ad bellum (the laws of going to war) and jus in bello (the laws of conducting conflicts) without breaking a sweat.
Steph and Samuel were both listening to the same podcast – JIB/JAB – about the Caroline incident from which a lot of the arguments about the nature of imminent threats were derived. (You can also hear Craig Martin on our pod here). Steph also listened to the Called to the Bar podcast focusing on the Caroline case.
We’ve done some other podcasts on what on earth is going on in recent months with Janina Dill and Oona Hathaway if you want to check back. We talk about the new Special Tribunal on Aggression against Ukraine. The Council of Europe has a handy fact sheet for more details. [I’m personally bummed that no-one is using the weird acronym STCoA that was being banded about over last couple of years. I mean, who doesn’t love an acronym that sounds like you’ve just had a shot of vodka and need to violently cough]. Samuel also mentioned he still has a soft spot for the ICTY and especially the Tadic case.
Since he is now writing on ‘aging and politics constitutionalism and democracy’ he recommended Helen Small’s The Long Life which the blurb says is: “The first major study of old age in philosophy and literature since Beauvoir’s The Coming of Age – essential reading for anyone interest in old age as a personal or public matter of interest”.
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