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Episode 7 – Justice via the backdoor with Kevin Jon Heller

Kevin Jon Heller

Stephanie has a guilty secret. Or maybe after this podcast, not so secret after all. She’s pretty much addicted to the most awful, most sexist, most unbelievable drama about the international criminal court – the one and only Crossing Lines . If you haven’t tried it and want to have a good laugh, you should. Maybe it’s the hawkish profile of William Fichtner, maybe it’s the constant references to transnational crimes like kidnapping as the ICC prosecutor’s main raison d’etre, maybe we will never know (but she is deep in the third season). [sb: Actually it’s Richard Flood’s Irish accent and the over the top plot twists]

If you want to find out more about how international justice is being depicted in Hollywood – and we do mention the excellent Black Earth Rising this episode is for you.

A girl is seen in Balukhali camp on 5 March 2018. As of January 2018, UN Women has set up the first Multi-Purpose Women’s Centre in the Balukhali refugee camp in Cox’s Bazar, in partnership with Action Aid and with support from UN Women National Committee Australia. Photo: UN Women/Allison Joyce

And, we also talk about the effect that the attempt to get the ICC involved in a case via a next-door country – may have on the court’s way of operating. It concerns Bangladesh (member of the ICC) and Myanmar (not), and the potential investigation into the crime of forcible transfer of Muslim Rohingyas over that border as a crime against humanity. Will we see a lot more cases like this? For example, the Syrian authorities and civilians deported to Jordan . One of our favourite journalist-friendly academics, Kevin Jon Heller, joins us to discuss both ICC jurisdiction and blockbuster legal dramas . Yes, we know he’s a man. But in the interest of fairness, we will interview one or two occasionally as the podcast continues.